Can Personalized Recovery Become MORE Human With Data & AI?

In this episode of Recovery Discovery, hosts DeAnn and Craig talk with Dr. Quyen Ngo, clinical psychologist and Director of the Butler Center for Research at the Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation.

Together, they explore the science behind addiction treatment, why recovery support must extend far beyond discharge, and how technology—from wearables to AI—might shape the future of long-term recovery.

Dr. Ngo breaks down:

  • Why addiction is a chronic brain disease, not a moral failing

  • The “danger zones” at 3, 6, and 12 months post-treatment

  • How Hazelden Betty Ford redesigned long-term support through the Lifelong Recovery Program

  • Challenges of collecting real-world outcomes data across systems

  • Ethical considerations of third-party platforms and patient privacy

  • The promise and risks of AI in behavioral health

  • Why standardizing treatment increases—not decreases—personalized care

This episode offers a rare inside look at modern addiction science, emerging technology, and the human work of supporting lasting change. It’s a conversation that bridges research, lived experience, and innovation — from the Butler Center for Research to the therapist’s office and beyond.

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